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The Constitution promises an interpreter for fair trials – US courts often can’t deliver

A court interpreter checks the day’s schedule of assignments. AP Photo/Brennan Linsley

In northern Oregon, just before dawn in October 2025, Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers arrested and shackled two farmworkers on their way to work. The man and woman were Guatemalan citizens who spoke no English and very little Spanish. They spoke Mam, an Indigenous Mayan language.

Despite the man trying to tell an ICE officer as much, he was not provided with an interpreter, according to his sworn declaration. Suspected of being in the country illegally, they were detained in an immigration processing center and signed papers they did not understand. They were released later with ankle monitors and placed under an intensive supervision program requiring frequent check-ins at an ICE office in Portland.

Their experience points to a problem that reaches far beyond Oregon.

The civil liberties guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution broadly apply to everyone in the U.S., regardless of immigration status. Courts have held that the right to an interpreter is protected by the Sixth Amendment, which guarantees the right to a fair trial – including understanding court proceedings and communicating with counsel. It’s also protected by the Fifth and 14th amendments, which state that no person can be deprived of “life, liberty, or property, without due process.”

But in a multilingual society, these rights collide with how little most Americans, including law enforcement and court professionals, are taught about language itself. Speakers of minority languages, or languages that are not commonly used in schools, courts or government, are often disadvantaged by this lack of linguistic awareness. This can even affect nonstandard English speakers or people who speak a variety of English that differs from the mainstream varieties privileged in courts and schools.

Imagine an English speaker detained abroad and forced to navigate a criminal trial in a language they do not understand. Most people would recognize that as fundamentally unfair, but speakers of minority languages often face this reality in U.S. courtrooms.

These failures are poised to multiply. Early in his second term, President Donald Trump issued an executive order designating English as the official U.S. language and rescinding a 2000 executive order that directed federal agencies to provide language access – despite the fact that around 25 million people in the U.S. have limited English proficiency.

At the same time, the Trump administration has sharply expanded an immigration crackdown that targets Latino communities. In immigration enforcement, heavily reduced training may be leaving ICE officers with limited understanding of constitutional protections, sweeping growing numbers of Indigenous-language speakers into a legal system unequipped to communicate with them.

As a linguist, translator and courtroom interpreter for the Ch’ol language – a Mayan language spoken by roughly a quarter of a million people – I see firsthand the ways in which the court system is unprepared.

Minority and Indigenous languages

More than 30 Mayan languages are spoken today by roughly 7 million people; they’re not dialects of Spanish but members of a separate linguistic family and have their own vocabulary, grammar and sound systems, as distinct from one another as the languages spoken across Europe. A speaker of Ch’ol would not be able to understand Mam, as is the case for thousands of other minority or Indigenous languages worldwide.

Since 2015 I have worked in southern Mexico with speakers of Ch’ol, and since 2023 I have been an expert witness and court interpreter. I have twice worked with defendants suspected of having learning disabilities, when, in reality, they had just been provided interpretation in the wrong language.

Consequences in the courtroom

A lack of awareness about language diversity and linguistic needs can have serious consequences in the courtroom. In the 1980s, a speaker of a Mixtec language was wrongfully convicted of murder after a trial conducted through a Spanish interpreter, a language he barely spoke. Four decades later this problem persists: In Texas in 2022, a man who spoke the Northern Tepehuan language was convicted of possession of marijuana with intent to distribute and sentenced to 24 months in prison despite not understanding his court proceedings.

Data on linguistic diversity is more available in Los Angeles and New York City, two cities with large Indigenous populations. But in other areas of the country, court systems are unprepared for diverse linguistic needs. Even the 2020 census, which researchers and Indigenous-rights advocates say undercounts these communities, recorded more than 1.3 million people identifying as Latin American Indian. Still, in court files and immigration records, Indigenous-language speakers are typically logged as Hispanic or Spanish-speaking, erasing the distinction that determines whether someone gets an interpreter they can understand.

Although neither ICE nor Customs and Border Protection tracks Indigenous immigrants or the languages they speak, reporting at the border suggests as many as 1 in 5 people in immigration detention are Indigenous.

By one estimate, speakers of Indigenous languages represent between 10% and 44% of new arrivals at the U.S.-Mexico border, but without the right language services, misunderstanding and bias can push asylum-seekers to abandon valid claims and return to dangerous situations or otherwise jeopardize their chances of gaining entry.

Indigenous language–speakers are denied asylum in the U.S. more often than speakers of more commonly spoken languages. In one instance, when a woman was asked to describe a domestic abuse injury to a judge, one interpreter used the word “heel”; another, later, used “ankle.” In Mam, “heel” and “ankle” are the same word, but the inconsistency led the judge to think the asylum-seeker was changing her story. The judge ordered her removed.

A broader impact

The failure to respect language and dialect diversity threatens the fairness of the legal system for immigrants and citizens alike, as linguistic discrimination can extend to varieties of English as well.

Court reporters are required to transcribe at a minimum of 95% accuracy, but that measure does not evaluate their ability to transcribe nonstandard English. In one study, researchers tested more than two dozen Philadelphia court reporters and found that when it came to African American English, their transcriptions were less than 60% accurate, sentence by sentence. AAE is a group of varieties of English spoken by many Black communities in the U.S. with their own rule-governed syntax, lexicon and phonology that make them distinct from mainstream American English. Inaccurate transcription, the study explained, can lead to errors that “change the official record of who performed what actions under which circumstances, with potentially dramatic legal repercussions.”

In 2012, George Zimmerman killed unarmed Black teenager Trayvon Martin and was charged with second-degree murder. Rachel Jeantel was on the phone with Martin before his death and, so, was a key witness for the prosecution. She testified for nearly six hours – including about the start of the encounter and who confronted whom, a question central to Zimmerman’s self-defense claim – but jurors found her testimony not credible and ended up disregarding it. One said it was hard to understand. Zimmerman would eventually be acquitted.

A young woman testifying on a witness stand, sitting near a microphone
Rachel Jeantel, a key witness in George Zimmerman’s trial, testifies in Florida in 2013.
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It is difficult to show how many people are affected by linguistic discrimination. Unlike people whose proficiency in English is low, AAE speakers are not counted as a distinct linguistic group, so the scale of the harm is undocumented. Nevertheless, one study showed that witnesses with foreign-accented English are viewed as less credible, and studies in both the U.K. and the U.S. found that speakers of nonstandard varieties of English are perceived to be guiltier.

In cases involving stigmatized varieties of speech, expert witnesses could help jurors understand linguistic diversity and separate how someone speaks from whether they are credible. Expert witnesses could also help jurors understand what linguistic discrimination is and explain that biases against someone’s language are often masked biases against their race, gender or socioeconomic background.

‘The last bastion of overt social discrimination’

The case against the two Mam-speaking farmworkers in Oregon was challenged in court, and in January 2026 a federal judge found the agents’ actions to be “reckless and erroneous.” The judge ordered ICE to remove their ankle monitors and end the supervision program imposed on them. Neither was convicted of a crime.

Despite the ruling in the farmworkers’ favor, though, their case reflects a broader problem: Although the right to an interpreter is constitutionally protected, that right means little when courts and officers are unaware of linguistic needs. Education for law enforcement and court officials on linguistic diversity, early language identification and increased funding for interpretation services are all essential before the courts can deliver on the rights the Constitution guarantees.

As sociolinguist James Milroy argued in a 1998 essay about linguistic discrimination in education, unless societies become more educated about linguistic diversity, “the last bastion of overt social discrimination will continue to be a person’s use of language.”

The Conversation

Carol Rose Little does not work for, consult, own shares in or receive funding from any company or organization that would benefit from this article, and has disclosed no relevant affiliations beyond their academic appointment.

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Wrangell hopes to become first Alaska location for ‘Freedom Rock’

(Courtesy/Larry Syverson, Wikimedia Commons) A “Freedom Rock” located in Kimbalton, Iowa.

Officials are searching for a large boulder and will need to fundraise to create a patriotic monument for Wrangell, a move that would bring the nation’s “Freedom Rock” tour to Alaska as a way of commemorating the 250th birthday of the United States.

The monument would be a custom-painted memorial designed to honor veterans and stories unique to the area. While these memorials exist in 11 states — mostly across the Midwest, Oklahoma and Texas — Wrangell is looking to claim the first one in Alaska.

“We’re currently looking for the right rock to use,” said JR Meek, the borough’s marketing and community development coordinator. “It can’t be larger than 10-by-10 feet but ideally should be around 8-by-8 feet.”

Meek is spearheading the search alongside Economic Development Director Kate Thomas and Jenn Miller-Yancey, the president of the Wrangell Mariners’ Memorial board.

The idea for getting a Freedom Rock was introduced by Miller-Yancey after traveling by RV in 2025, when she and her husband, Eric Yancey, stopped in Winterset, Iowa, to visit the John Wayne Birthplace Museum.

“We saw this big rock with a beautiful patriotic scene on it. We got information and we learned about the reason for it and how it’s tailored to each community,” she said. “I suggested it after we got back, but there was so much going on at the time, it wasn’t practical to pursue at the time.”

While an exact spot for the monument has not been decided, organizers are eyeing Heritage Harbor as their top choice, with City Park serving as a backup option.

“We want Heritage Harbor, but where we are wanting is near Zimovia right of way and is also close proximity to burial grounds. So, we want to speak with the WCA and get their opinion about the location,” Meek said. “We won’t take any steps for that location until we hear from the WCA.”

The Freedom Rock memorials started in 1999 in Adair County, Iowa, by artist Ray “Bubba” Sorensen II. As a 19-year-old college student inspired by the movie “Saving Private Ryan,” Sorensen painted what he called “a massive thank-you message to veterans” on a large boulder. The tribute was so well received by local veterans that they encouraged him to paint it again the following year.

Since then, Sorensen has repainted the original Iowa rock every year for Memorial Day, creating a new tribute each time, and he has also painted Freedom Rock murals in 10 other states.

Sorensen charges a fee of $13,500 in total, which includes a $2,000 deposit and $1,500 for art supplies with $10,000 upon completion of the mural. The borough’s promotional Travel Wrangell budget could be used to cover airfare, accommodations and shipping for his supplies.

Depending on the weather, each unique monument takes the artist about two to four weeks to paint. There is now a Freedom Rock in every county in Iowa.

Meek said the tentative plan is to have Sorensen in Wrangell from July 7 to Aug. 8 to paint the memorial.

“We still haven’t figured out what story or theme we want to use for the rock,” he said. “The idea is for us to get (Sorensen) here and give him time to become familiar with the community and the theme for the memorial so he can complete the painting.”

“Wrangell loves a good project, especially when it’s for a good cause,” Miller-Yancey said. “I’m just really excited to be a part of this project and I’m so glad the city wants to do this and to honor the veterans.”

Volunteer opportunities may include project coordination, sponsorship and donations, site preparation and logistics, historical and veteran story gathering and community outreach.

Anyone wanting to assist with finding a rock, volunteering time to help, donating materials or helping to sponsor the memorial is encouraged to fill out a form at: https://forms.office.com/r/E8zJVfnUHc

This story was first published by the Wrangell Sentinel.

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Haines shows up to get down

Big thanks to everyone who boogied the night away Saturday during our KHNS Dance Party! Nearly 100 people of all ages — in sequins, bright prints and costumes — danced to awesome music by DJKJ and DJ RadioCaroline, raising about $3,700 for local community public radio. The talent, sponsors and hosts helped make the evening a success, but Juniper Talley deserves a special shoutout for creating this dance party series to support local nonprofits in a fun and positive way!

Dawn Drotos, KHNS Development Director 

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Blotter: May 24 – May 30

Sunday, May 24

A caller in the 10 block of Haines Highway reported finding a piece of jewelry on the sidewalk and turned it in. The item was logged in lost and found.

Officers in the 300 block of Haines Highway responded to a report of a protective order violation. One subject was taken into custody.

A caller in Haines reported losing a wallet. An officer found the wallet and returned it.

A caller on Chilkoot State Park Road reported finding a cell phone and turned it in. The phone was returned to its owner.

A caller at Jones Point requested a welfare check on a citizen. An officer performed the check.

Monday, May 25

A caller in the 100 block of Main Street reported lost identification and medication. Item descriptions and contact information were obtained.

An officer in the 100 block of First Avenue assisted another agency.

A caller in the 500 block of FAA Road reported a young brown bear in the area. A Nixle was sent out.

A caller at the Chilkat River reported a campfire near the treeline. The Haines Volunteer Fire Department responded.

Police received an automated alert for a vehicle accident at 13.5 Mile Haines Highway. Haines police, Haines Volunteer Fire Department and Klehini Valley Volunteer Fire Department responded.

Officers in the 100 block of First Avenue responded to a call of assault and theft.

An officer in the 300 block of Lynnview Drive assisted another agency.

Tuesday, May 26

A caller in the 1000 block of Haines Highway reported that a bear had gotten into garbage and scattered it everywhere. Officers responded.

Multiple callers at Chilkoot Lake reported a young moose with many tourists present. A wildlife trooper responded.

Haines Volunteer Fire Department performed a service call on Mud Bay Road.

A caller at 21 Mile Haines Highway reported finding a dry bag and turned it in. The owner was contacted and picked up the bag.

A caller in Haines reported concern for a civil issue. An officer took the call.

A caller on Second Avenue reported a possible impaired driver. Officers responded.

Wednesday, May 27

A caller in the 300 block of Lynnview Drive reported a violation of conditions of release. One person was taken into custody.

A caller in the 300 block of Haines Highway reported lost keys. Item descriptions and contact information were obtained.

A caller in the 300 block of Haines Highway reported a concern of a civil issue. An officer took the call.

Police in the 1000 block of Haines Highway received an arrest warrant.

Friday, May 29

A caller in the 200 block of Sawmill Road reported a problem with loose dogs. Officers responded.

Saturday, May 30

A caller at Jones Point reported a sow and cub in the area. A Nixle was sent out.

A caller in the 800 block of FAA Road reported a customer leaving without paying for services. An officer responded.

A caller at Portage Cove reported a person yelling at their group while on a tour. Officers responded.

A caller in the 30 block of Mission Street reported a hit and run. An officer responded and issued a citation.

Police in the 300 block of Haines Highway assisted another agency.

Officers responded to a report of suspicious behavior in Haines.

There were 35 burn permits issued, 10 EMS calls, two 911 hang-up calls and one canine call during this reporting period.

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This Week in History: Woodchips, musicians and lumber

10 Years Ago

The Haines Borough School Board will meet at 7 p.m. on July 14 to hear a detailed presentation and ask questions about a proposal by borough consultant Darsie Culbeck to use wood chips to heat public buildings. 

In a brief presentation to the board Tuesday, Culbeck said chip-burning boilers near the swimming pool could save the school district up to $2 million over the next 20 years, at current fuel prices. 

Culbeck told the board the reason he wants to proceed with chips – instead of wood pellets, as previously planned – was that chips could be locally produced. “We can’t make pellets in the community right now, but we can make chips.”

Previous to a borough decision to pursue pellet heat, borough leaders passed over chips as an option. Arguments against chips included that they required handling before burning, including drying, and that they tended to ball together, creating “clinkers” that gummed up chip delivery systems. 

Culbeck told the board that quarter-inch “microchips” would be dried one year, leaving them with the “right moisture content” for boilers the borough recently acquired. 

Chips previously considered – including ones used at a municipal facility in Craig – were “messy” and “hard to work with,” Culbeck said. 

Culbeck said he envisioned the Haines Borough would employ a worker to tend the chip boiler. “There’s more maintenance needed on a chip boiler than an oil boiler. That’s something we do recognize,” he said. 

20 Years Ago

Musicians from around the world will be coming to Haines in August to participate in the first annual CrossSound Institute summer session. 

The five-day course, which will include master classes open to Haines residents, is aimed at honing the skills of singers and piano accompanists, and will be capped by a public concert featuring original works by two visiting composers.

Stewart Emerson, a professor at Berlin’s Hanns Eisler Academy of music, will headline the sessions, offering expertise that has helped train some of Europe;’s most acclaimed operatic singers. “He’s a real specialist in his field,” said Juneau contractor Stefan Hakenberg, who worked with Emerson at Germany’s Cologne Opera in the early 1990s. “A lot of today’s opera singers in big opera houses have worked with him.”

Emerson has taught at the Royal College of Music in London and is an expert in four fields: conducting, singing, piano and vocal coaching, said Nancy Nash, program director for the Haines sessions. 

60 Years Ago

Haines area lumber operators are expanding their activities westward. 

Most recent announcement from the office of Governor Hickel reports that Westward Timber Products, a group formed by John Schnabel of Schnabel Lumber Co. in Haines and James and Gifford Evens, owners of Evans Lumber Co. in Anchorage, will open a mill in Seward to process timber from the Fairbanks area. 

Present plans call for moving a stable mill from Haines to the Seward site, which will employ 15 mill workers plus woods personnel. 

Future plans are for a mill capable of 200,000 board feet of cants a day plus an annual output of 192,000 tons of wood chips per year. 

Mill construction and operation will hinge on successful completion of timber sale arrangements. The operation will employ some 70 workers in the mill and 75 in the field, according to the governor’s office. 

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Duly Noted: Writers, disc golfers, little leaguers, and more

A handful of Haines writers, aspiring writers and readers attended the 16th annual North Words Writers Symposium in Skagway. The keynote author was Willy Vlautin. Attendees included Haines locals Dan Henry, Heather Lende, Mandy Ramsey, Russell Kennedy,  Beau Bradley, and Breanna Walker. The event was organized with help from Jeff Brady and X’unei Lance Twitchell. 

The Raven’s Bowl disc golf tournament was held at the fairgrounds May 30-31.The contest is a two-day, two-round Professional Disk Golf Association sanctioned event. This is the eighth year of the event and third year of being a sanctioned tournament — the only sanctioned tournament in Southeast Alaska. Haines local participants were Colton Baker, Jeremy Reed, Dennis Durr, Mike T. Ward, Luck Dunbar, Tim Ewing, Shaun Cornish and Mike Binkie. The mixed professional open winner was Colton Baker. The female professional open winner was Brie Levia. The mixed professional 40 winner was Luck Dunbar and the mixed amateur winner was Korbyn Gendron. Event organizer Reed said there are divisions for all skill levels and he hopes to encourage more youth participation. Haines hosts seven tournaments a year, including two in the winter. 

Katherine Perry made it back to Haines for construction season. Perry spent the winter in Ohio, missing the mountains, sunshine, sweet Alaskan air and the wonderful people of Haines. She is looking forward to soaking up the sun and waving vehicles through the highway construction again this year. Perry expects to spend a lot of time improving her croquet game in her spare time. Watch for her on the croquet course and on the highway. 

The Haines Little League has some fresh faces on the board this year: Stacie Powlison, Candice Hakki, Joliena Olsen, Summer Lynch, Teolani Baker, Jenn Walsh and Tina Long. Powlison said volunteers spruced up the field and plan to have the concession stand open for all of the Friday night games this season. Chili dogs and pretzels with cheese were wildly popular last season and will be back again this year, she said. About 75 players are signed up in three leagues, including T-ball, majors and seniors. She credits the coaching staff for their hard work at the assessment and gear swap held recently included Larry Sweet Jr., Coleman Stanford, Daniel Stickler, Colton Baker, Michael Reynolds, JD Johnson, and Jordan Baumgartner.

Greg Podsiki has been the prowl for some piglets and piglet movers. He has taken on the task of filling the McPherson barn at the fairgrounds with 4-H animals this year and he hopes to include pig racing as well. This task includes procuring the piglets that must be born around May 1st to qualify. Podsiki discovered that the permitting process to bring them through Canada is not cost effective due to several factors including mandatory USDA vet checks for the piglets.Tahveh Watkins stepped up and shared contact info for Heather Adkins, she raises free-range Kunekune pigs. Kunekune’s are originally from New Zealand and are known for their pleasant disposition towards people. Podsiki says that he will be procuring the piglets and they will be transported by Alaska Seaplanes at no charge arriving in early July. He hopes to train the pigs to race as the first Chilkat Valley 4-H project and eventually rehome them in the area as hobby farm animals and pets before auctioning them off to butcher. The funds raised will be used to start future 4-H projects.

Former Haines resident Ellis Anne Meyers Greene and David Chen were married in a desert-themed ceremony in Sedona, Arizona on May 30, 2026. Ellis is the daughter of Nelle and Larry Jurgeleit of Haines and Thomas Mayer of Longboat Key, Florida. David Chen is the son of Dr. Gary Chen and Ping Zhang of Springfield, Illinois. Haines’ friends and family who attended included Jim and Anna Jurgeleit and Hannah Bochart. Also attending were former Haines cousins Elizabeth Jurgeleit with Sean Rielly and Alec and Monica Jurgeleit. Friends and family came from all corners of the country to attend. 

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A Q&A with Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins, candidate for governor

More than a dozen people gathered in the Chilkat Inlet Retreat Sunday morning to hear from gubernatorial candidate Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins. 

 Patty Brown, Haines local for the past 30 years, said she  “learned a lot about him.” Brown, a retired teacher, said she has known Kreiss-Tomkins since he was in high school because he would come to Drama, Debate and Forensic tournaments. Brown said she wanted to “pass the baton to the next generations.” 

Kreiss-Tomkins, 37,  is from Sitka. He was just 23 years old when he beat out the Chilkat Valley’s Bill Thomas to get elected to the state House of Representatives. He served for a decade and stepped down as the representative for District 35 which includes Hoonah, Sitka, Kake, Craig and others.

The campaign stop came together at the last minute. Reached with just 48 hours to go before the visit, Natalie Dawson, Heather Lende and others invited a few community members to attend. Lende said she supports and endorses Kreiss-Tomkins; Dawson said she helped out as an opportunity for civic engagement, not as an endorsement of any particular candidate. 

Before the meeting, Kreiss-Tomkins sat down with the Chilkat Valley News’ Lizzy Hahn to discuss the policies he is focusing on the most.

This conversation has been edited for clarity and brevity. 

Hahn: What made you decide to run for governor?

Kreiss-Tomkins: (I’m) very concerned about how Alaska is doing under Dunleavy, (I) want to get us back on track. We’re losing population. Schools are closing. It’s harder for people to get by. Alaska’s going (in) the wrong direction. Ideally, we have a governor who’s a part of the solution and not the problem.

If you were to get into office, what would be your first step to move in the “right direction?”

Reinvest in public schools, support our schools, so that, (its) not an issue in Haines, but schools across the state are closing, Anchorage, the MatSu, Kenai, Kodiak, Ketchikan, you name it. Forward fund schools so school districts, like HBSD, don’t have to guess on the education funding that’s gonna come out of the legislature, which they currently do every year. That results in teachers getting fired every spring. Then they wait for the education funding number to come in from the legislature and then they get rehired a couple months later. Forward funding, so you don’t have this incredibly dumb, destructive fire-then-rehire cycle every year. Which, can you design a better way to make somebody leave a profession than firing them every year? Like, that’s just awful. And it’s completely avoidable through a structural change in budgeting. I think getting our fair share from oil is a huge priority. 
The Hilcorp tax loophole, one of our two major oil and gas producers, pays not a dime, not a nickel of corporate income tax, is patently indefensible, and is a major revenue hole for the state of Alaska. So that’s a real high priority in lowering costs, housing, childcare, energy, and electricity. The state doesn’t have, you know, magic-wand level power and control over those costs, but for each of those areas, there are important substantive things the state can do to lead on lowering costs so that people can afford to live here.

A lot of villages are waiting to get their new summer influx of fuel, and everyone’s wondering, what is that cost gonna look like? How would you address the rising costs, whether it’s gas or housing, if you were governor?

In all candor, for price of gas, as much as I would love to say, there’s something the state can do, that is not realistically a cost that the state has any direct control over. I mean, the theoretical answer would be like the state starts subsidizing the cost, subsidizing gasoline, which is not gonna happen. So it’s just we’re at the whim of these global markets. There are consequences every time you start a war in the Middle East.

Do you have any plans for policies that may impact Haines or Southeast? If you are elected, what are some of the first policies that you’re thinking of that would maybe either impact the state as a whole or Southeast?

I want to restore balance in the Board of Fisheries which, right now, from my perspective, and perspective of many, has basically become sort of a wholly owned subsidiary of Kenai River Sportfishing Association, which is a sportfish lobby group in Kenai. I think [it] has little regard, to no regard, of the interests of coastal communities like Haines or Sitka or Southeast, Alaska. I want to fix the ferry system, which is pretty deeply broken at this point, which means bonding for new mainline vessels. We have a new generation of blue canoes. I think the most important change in the ferry system that I would like to see is to get the politics out of management and governance of the system. And right now the ferry system is managed by whoever the [Department of Transportation] commissioner is, which is a function of whoever the governor is. And it’s fundamentally a political governance of the ferry system. So every time you have a new governor, and I saw three governors come and go in my 10 years in the legislature. They often, well intentioned, although not always well intentioned, have a different, often radically different vision for what the ferry system should look like. Zooming out from any one governor, including myself, the goal should be to have a sober and coherent, long-term and sustained management vision, which means ultimately divesting the ferry system from the direct control of the governor, including as I’m governor. 
And that is the best interest, I think, of the ferry system. So similar to the Alaska Railroad, or similar to the University of Alaska, where those boards are not an extension of the governor, but they’re independently appointed and confirmed.

Another contentious issue is logging in the Tongass. This is something that politicians like Trump have been advocating for. Where do you stand on this topic?

I support a sustainable new growth timber industry. I’m generally cautious about old-growth logging. Old-growth logging is basically mining because you never really get to cut those trees again. Most of the old-growth harvest, that happens in Southeast Alaska, just gets exported in the round to Asia, and leaves very little economic benefit for the state. So that’s sort of my perspective.

In recent years, we’ve seen massive storms hitting the Yukon-Kuskokwim Delta and Western Alaska. What role do you believe the governor serves in either climate change prevention or setting up these communities for future storms?

Halong and Merbok really clarified the stakes for Alaska, suffering property damage and loss of life. Kotzebue has been flooded two of the last three years. I have a friend in Kotzebue whose house she’s still not living in from flooding a couple years ago. So the state has to be ready and prepared to protect its residents from these storms and their impacts. I think it’s most acute in Western Alaska. I think it means working really closely with tribal governments and the federal government, to coordinate response and preparation. The question of adaptation itself is incredibly tricky. By adaptation I mean, like relocation for villages like Kipnuk, which are low lying and, you know, basically devastated from last fall, and it’s like kind of what’s the future, but the state, the resources are not obviously there to finance a multi-hundred million dollar relocation of just one village. So, I mean, I think the question is really important. The answer is tough. I don’t think anybody really has the answer but I’m very motivated to try to find it.

What are some of your goals for your first 100 days in office if elected?

I think the first and most obvious piece is like kind of stopping the bleeding with public schools and building an administration that Alaskans can have confidence in. 
And for me personally, it’s really important that the administration, the cabinet, reflects the breadth of Alaskans as a whole. Similar to the bipartisan coalition in the house, which I was a part of, and I’m a huge believer in, you know, it’s Ds, it’s Is, it’s moderate Rs. I really wanted an administration that looks like that too. 
So like Republicans in the cabinet. I’m running with an Independent, not a Democrat. So, I mean, even our ticket is sort of mirroring that sort of cross partisan Alaskans working together regardless of what the letter next to their name is. I think building that administration, building that team is one of my most important priorities. 

Is there anything else that you would like to mention that I ask? 

We’re really excited about our endorsement from Gov. Tony Knowles from a week and a half ago. I think a big piece of why I’m running is I think our ticket can win and for 10 years I represented and won in a district that voted for Trump. I’m the only Democrat running who can say that. In those 10 years, I ran substantially ahead of top of ticket Democrats. The high water markers, I ran 23 percentage points ahead of Biden. And that was the highest rate of over performance for any legislative Democrat in Alaska, that cycle. Which is just to say, I have a proven record of being able to bring in Independents and Republicans, even though I have a D next to my name, who can get behind the sort of vision I have offered as a legislator, so I’ve done that on a regional level. I’ve done that on a legislative level. And that’s the kind of record you want to look for for a candidate who can win statewide. 

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